I wish.

[chan3] general
Sep 14 16:50

Sometimes I wish we could just send some B2s to eliminate the flat-earthers. /\ \ \ \ \ \ \ / \ / \ \ > { \ / b \ \ p / / > { / \ / \ / / / / / / / \/

[chan] general
Sep 14 16:53

So you want to murder people for their beliefs.

[chan3] general
Sep 14 16:54

Not murder. Just kill. To murder would imply that they're an intelligent lifeform.

[chan] general
Sep 14 17:11

"Even the best of the gentiles should be killed." ~ Talmud I see where you're coming from.

[chan3] general
Sep 14 17:13

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to claim that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous - the actual Arabic words for persecution (idtihad) - and oppression are not used instead of fitna. Fitna can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. A strict translation is 'sedition,' meaning rebellion against authority (the authority being Allah). This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief. [Editor's note: these notes have been modified slightly after a critic misinterpreted our language. Verse 193 plainly says that 'fighting' is sanctioned even if the fitna 'ceases'. This is about religious order, not real persecution.] Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot. Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah'). Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers. Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…" Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks." Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle). Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense? Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. The targets of violence are "those who disbelieve" - further defined in the next verse (13) as "defy and disobey Allah." Nothing is said about self-defense. In fact, the verses in sura 8 were narrated shortly after a battle provoked by Muhammad, who had been trying to attack a lightly-armed caravan to steal goods belonging to other people. Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, as it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals." Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember." Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..." Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy." As Ibn Kathir puts it in his tafsir on this passage, "Allah commands Muslims to prepare for war against disbelievers, as much as possible, according to affordability and availability." Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..." Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence at the time of Muhammad was to convert to Islam: prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars. The popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert. [Note: The verse says to fight unbelievers "wherever you find them". Even if the context is a time of battle (which it was not) the reading appears to sanction attacks against those "unbelievers" who are not on the battlefield. In 2016, the Islamic State referred to this verse in urging the faithful to commit terror attacks: Allah did not only command the 'fighting' of disbelievers, as if to say He only wants us to conduct frontline operations against them. Rather, He has also ordered that they be slain wherever they may be – on or off the battlefield. (source)] Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "heals" the hearts of Muslims. Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war. Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths. Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell. The verse also links physical fighting to the "cause of Allah" (or "way of Allah"). Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and - in this case - on Christian soil, according to the historians). Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It explains why today's devout Muslims generally have little regard for those outside the faith. The inclusion of "hypocrites" (non-practicing) within the verse also contradicts the apologist's defense that the targets of hate and hostility are wartime foes, since there was never an opposing army made up of non-religious Muslims in Muhammad's time. (See also Games Muslims Play: Terrorists Can't Be Muslim Because They Kill Muslims for the role this verse plays in Islam's perpetual internal conflicts). Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper." Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer? Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam). Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (v.74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. [Note: This parable along with verse 58:22 is a major reason that honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.12).] Quran (21:44) - "...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?" Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness with it." - The root for Jihad is used twice in this verse - although it may not have been referring to Holy War when narrated, since it was prior to the hijra at Mecca. The "it" at the end is thought to mean the Quran. Thus the verse may have originally meant a non-violent resistance to the 'unbelievers.' Obviously, this changed with the hijra. 'Jihad' after this is almost exclusively within a violent context. The enemy is always defined as people, rather than ideas. Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease (evil desire for adultery, etc.), and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah, cease not, We shall certainly let you overpower them, then they will not be able to stay in it as your neighbors but a little while Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter." This passage sanctions slaughter (rendered as "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators - those who speak out against Islam. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out, which is what today's terrorists do. Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Holy war is to be pursued against those who reject Allah. The unbelievers are to be killed and wounded. Survivors are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test. (See also: 47:4 for more context) Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you," Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' If so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell. Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that two very distinct standards are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26.. Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9), which defines the "cause": "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought. Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of'Adn- Eternity ['Adn(Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle waged to make Islam victorious over other religions (see verse 9). It uses the Arabic root for the word Jihad. Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

[chan] general
Sep 15 05:20

Islam and Judaism are the same moon god, human sacrifice cult with different window dressings.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 05:35

+1

[chan] general
Sep 15 09:05

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Survivors are not fight until in which hath been forbidden, but the battle which they attempt to murder is meant in The upper hand for adultery, you overpower them and His Cause, of the upper hand for them in the idolaters wherever you, suffer pain, then fight that forbidden But are unlike the verses in the cause, those who disbelieve. But take no always defined in it is a long, and the way family, member is to be as an internal struggle, Quran, sick that Allah these are near to His cause of Allah is not referring to the historical context is unable not, and put others: hate And the authority the myth that the dirty work himself is only this is Quran they can be held captive and those who believe, in hell, a thing which they cease, let you that you meet fighting of the fitna disorder that Day, Muslims that the land is used twice in their city which include Jews bargain early Christians, and be on them a better for in sight, and fight. This passage But know should may be seized and Hence the context of Jihad in any case on them, even If to them and the comfort of Islam even if The fighting of self defense is worse than killing. Strive against the enemy is almost exclusively within the verse also acting in self defense.

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Sep 15 10:10

+1

[chan3] general
Sep 15 17:54

So much +1 Can we also get rid of Antivaxxers, while we are at it?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 17:54

Approved as requested.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:09

You love your cult rituals and cult creation myths. You like big bangs, injecting monkey pus and thimerisol, and praying to priests in white lab coats. You would love to rape and murder people who oppose your status quo.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 18:10

It's not rape if your mom wanted it. That fucking slut.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:12

They're closer than you think. [chan] FLUORIDE BM-2cSovmvhr5mmqA5YPvbJVeNqMkpYTShSUp

[chan3] general
Sep 15 18:13

Oh god, not Fluoride conspiracy theorists now.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:22

Shut up and drink your fluoride. It's good for you. It's perfectly natural to have rat poison in your water.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:22

It's Bitmessage, the internet's toilet. Of course there would be Fluoride conspiracy terrorists.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:22

The atheist cries to god to save him from the eevool floooreyed.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 18:23

Actually, it is. The other things you'll find naturally in your water may surprise you. Natural springs don't dish out distilled and pure water, you know. Dilution is your friend.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 18:24

You know, I wish I could bring myself to go about trolling crap like that. It'd amuse me greatly... but I can't bring myself to be that much of an asshole. Unless I'm talking about their moms. And what I'd shove in their orifaces. Then I'll be an asshole. Instead, I just realize how much of the population is absolutely retarded.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:40

What worries me more is that, as they say, a society which gets it's kicks by pretending to be stupid, will always attract actual idiots who think they're in good company.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 18:41

Yeah... I feel like that's what happened when a bunch of trolls decided to rally around Hillary Clinton and ended up convincing a country that it was a good idea.

[chan] general
Sep 15 18:59

You're the troll, and you'll never be putting your dick in any orifice except your pet pig's ass.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:00

Your mom isn't a pet, but she is on my leash.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:01

Anyone with sense can see what kind of clown you are. You are a revolting scumfuck.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:02

Viva la revolución! As if you have any idea who I am, or which messages on here belong to me lololol.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:02

How about we settle this in person? I can find you.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:03

Oh man, I bet he's shaking in his boots.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:03

Hah.. Right. As if you even have a driver's license yet, kid.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:04

He probably wears birkenstocks and has dreads with lice.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:09

Who? The guy claiming to be willing to travel? Shit like that is how you wind up shot around here.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:10

Call the Lice Liberation Front!!!

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:10

FIGHT........ FOR THE RIGHT............... FOR LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:14

Which is why both sides in this shitshow would be entirely silent if they ever met in person. The threat of being punched in your stupid face when you talk shit really makes people think a second before they open their anus.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:15

Yeh, well your kind of shit talk can be viewed through a Leupold a long way off.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:16

If you're going to try to out-shoot me, maybe you can start with glass that isn't off the shelf at walmart.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:17

Did you just turn into Tyler Durden in your own mind?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:17

Considering you're one of the shit talkers threatening to try to shoot, I find this funny.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:21

hey, if you're not going to man up and make anonymous threats, then you just need to keep silent. let the real keyboard warriors school you on pimple-faced manhood.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:24

I don't need milspec to hunt pests and varmints.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:25

ROGAHHHHH You guys can go on reminding me of this scene from Family Guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsve9wB_sEA

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:26

"milspec" has nothing to do with it. Milspec doesn't imply good. However, Monarchs, high end Vortexes, etc., are amazing bits of kit, but certainly nothing you'll find at the walmart.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:31

Three feds argue in a failed honeypot op with one state trooper who thinks the feds are terrorists....the trooper is partly right. What a dismal fucking waste of budget this turned out to be. I feel sorry for you fuckers. You could have been overseas sport banging. Instead you're spending your days in a cubicle just around the corner from the Rabbi's office.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:32

huh?

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:34

Nobody gets to lay out the cash for kits like that unless the target is VIP or mission critical. Plenty of recon snipers in the field have strapped .308 rifles with high-end Leupold scopes because lugging a 50 cal just is not practical in lots of cases. If you have a 50 cal rig you're not hanging out on bitmessage. So don't try to blow that smoke up my ass.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:38

What are you talking about? Plenty of folks lay out the money for decent optics. Each rifle and each optic has a mission. 1,200 yards? Fine, stick with that 7.62x51. 2000+? Wrong tool. 408 cheytec, 416 rigby, 50bmg... we're talking bigger toys. For any of that, the optic you can find at Walmart or Academy is woefully insufficient. Second focal plane doesn't work well like that, and minor defects in the glass make everything a mirage. Playing at 1200+ yards is a different game. And yes, I can have nice toys to reach out and touch things and yet sit around on here. The two go a little hand-in-hand.

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Sep 15 19:38

I am that guy, willing to travel! Princes coming with me on world tour?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:39

But will you put out while on tour?

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:41

It's a baiting game. Appeal to the target's ego, his sense of being insulted and misunderstood, then draw him in to dox himself in the rush to demand respect. Miller time.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:42

What kind of skirt will you be wearing?

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:46

> And yes, I can have nice toys to reach out and touch things and yet sit around on here. The two go a little hand-in-hand. I bet you reach out and touch yourself. Both balls, hand-in-hand. Sorry, you left that wide open.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:47

I usually leave my balls alone, I more focus on the penis.

BM-2cUGA9CRnRZ95oj7EsCYDU9Z5AMgJnVXXP
Sep 15 19:56

I will put in as much as possible.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:56

yea, this.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:56

And I think the whole channel just busted a nut.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:57

Are we going to shoot child molestors?

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:58

I found a web site where men swapped masturbation techniques. About three paragraphs in I realized what I was reading. It was more than I care to remember. You people are giving me flashbacks.

[chan] general
Sep 15 19:58

Or nutted a bust.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:58

That's the Internet I remember. Even before then, it was always fun stumbling across crap like that on usenet or the bbses.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 19:59

Nutted all over your bust.

[chan] general
Sep 15 20:02

What about Nightforce?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 20:05

I haven't played much with them, but last time I talked to them at a convention I played some with tha ATACR and it impressed me. The rest of their lineup (save the NXS, which is well proven) for some reason just strike me as bench and light hunting optics, though. If I found an NXS or ATACR for a good deal when I needed to build something, I'd probably pick it up, but their FFP selection is limited, so I'm not sure I'd happen to stumble across what I'd be looking for.

[chan] general
Sep 15 20:17

One of American Sniper's favorite rigs was outfitted with a mil-dot Leupold reticle. He killed people with it. The .338 Lupau they used in the movie was true to form. It was rigged with a Leupold scope. Kyle's favorite is a .308 with the ATACR. This professionsl killed the fuck out of peeps with different grades of 30 cal, including 300 winchester mag.

[chan] general
Sep 15 20:23

Army sniper rifle with a Leupold scope. Leupold is Army Strong http://www.shootingtimes.com/optics/optics_leupold_is_army_strong_021611/

[chan3] general
Sep 15 20:26

Ah yes, Chris Kyle, the SEAL that wouldn't shut up. I appreciate what he did, but he's been discredited multiple times about the stories he's told about himself. Most pictures of rifles he takes have Nightforces on them. Want to know why he had what he had? GSA numbers. Wait until you ever try to get in to selling shit to the government... it's a lot of red tape. There's a good reason most guys in that line of work don't write books about it.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 20:27

And? The Army's small arms inventory is not what most would consider premier. Remember the whole "lowest bidder" thing? They do the job, they're easy to maintain. They're doing all of that for cheap. The engineer's triangle is relevant here.

[chan] general
Sep 15 20:36

My grandfather fought in WWII. He was a sniper. He took out targets at long range with iron sights. They used a lot of .30 cal rifles. His prize rifle was a 300 Savage single shot bolt action. My other grandfather fought in the Korean war. He killed so many zipperheads and he saw so much gore that he became an alcoholic for about 10 years when he got home. He was also an expert marksman. He had an old 303 british and a shitload of old 30 cal rifles. He didn't have any scopes. He hunted deer year round, in season and out, with iron sights.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 20:38

Yep... and I've taken hogs at 400 years with the ghost rings on my Garand. It's often more fun to take away a crutch or two. Granted, if you're hunting please don't do this if you're not confident you'll make the shot. The only thing worse than missing is to graze and injure the animal if you can't follow up and make the shot. Hogs and other varmint excluded, of course. Don't give a flying fuck about them.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:01

When did "dropping a bomb on retarded flat earthlers and antivaxxers" derail into "talking about guns"?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:02

The internet does that. I'm pretty sure that s/years/yards/ makes more sense.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:07

likes the Garand style bolt action ... I never pull the trigger unless I'm certain of the shot... the thought of a deer taking 3 days to die is horrible ... deer are almost people.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:07

It's cheaper to kill flat earthers with guns? Bombs are expensive. Save those for lawyers and TV evangelists.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:07

Fuck it's Miller time again.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:16

If you want to bomb the flat earthers just use a sparkler bomb with some ANFO packed in the gaps. I specialized in explosives... when I was a teenager. I learned how to make gunpowder from scratch. Eventually I moved on to home made reclaimed phosphorous, and strontium nitrate bombs. You have graduated when you have brewed a couple lbs. of gun cotton. Gun cotton is enough to set off ANFO so you don't have to get dynamite as a precursor. One can also make explosives from piss and stump remover. You boil the piss down to concentrate the urea, mix it with nitric acid from stump remover, and you got you some bona fide Haji Homebrew / Shuriah Semtex. You can give the gift of Haji Homebrew to the flat earthers.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:21

That takes "I piss on you" to a whole new level

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:22

"Piss off!" *BOOM*

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:22

Or you could just bomb them with a condom full of piss. Since you're all talking like monkeys anyway......

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:23

Perfect for an action movie

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:23

I piss on you, blue-eyed satanic devilish warmonger imperialist yankee western devil with Shuria Semtex piss applicator device.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:24

lol

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:27

Remember that Thomas Edison once tried to build a helicopted. It was powered by gun cotton. He stopped work on it after the helicopter blew up. I should do some research on how exactly he tried to actually power a helicopter like that.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:30

Did EDISON actually work on it, or did he just buy engineers and/or steal ideas from others? Oh, and did he kill more animals with AC current to show how daaaangerous it is while he was doing this?

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:32

Gun cotton is the shit. It's easy to make. It's safe as long as you don't bump it really hard. it stores well. It's extremely powerful. It's good for homemade anti-personnel mines and a pound of it in tank treads or under an armored vehicle will do the trick. I had no idea what Edison was up to. That should be interesting to learn about.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:32

Edison wasn't a dumb man. Just like today, sometimes, if you can't beat them, buy them! And animal research was acceptable at the time. But to the best of my knowledge, that was actually one of his personal efforts. He later tried with electric motors, too.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:34

Edison was a fucking pig. Everyone destroyed Tesla's work then their hellspawn kids profited from it once Tesla was dead.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:35

You know, there's more to that history than the Edison v Tesla power contest.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:37

"Animal research" is pretty, PRETTY far off from "knowingly killing animals in an extremely poor attempt to make my competitor look bad"

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:39

It's about presentation. "Research on effects of electricity on living creatures" is how framed it back then. Do you feel the same about mining canaries?

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:40

Poor birdy

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:40

Or lab rats? Personally I'd prefer it happen to them than a human.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:41

Those at least present a useful purpose, since it can save lives. Trying to lead a petty crusade against a competitor doesn't.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:42

The point is that lab rats are used for actual research. Edison was just killing animals out of spite.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:42

Petty crusade? It's sales. He wanted to demonstrate something which is better done as shown rather than told. It's like the knife sales man that slices a sheet of paper. Would you necessarily believe them if they just told you? Or when aircraft manufacturers started using thrust vectoring. Would the world believe what they hadn't seen?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:43

Spite? You'd be a crappy businessman if you weren't willing to sell your stuff. Just because somebody else may have a better product doesn't mean that they'll win the market.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:48

"Look how well I can kill this animal with THIS GUY'S PRODUCT" isn't marketing, it's being a pathetic fuck. But if you insist I'd be a crappy businessman if I refused to prefer this method of "marketing my products", then yea, maybe society craves sociapaths, and I just prefer not being one.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:49

Times have changed. At the time it was socially acceptable. Holding them to our standards today is disingenuous.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:50

Why didn't the knife salesman slice some baby seals like Edison would have done if he was selling knives?

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:52

A knife is designed to cut. Electricity was meant to make life better, not kill. But when you're trying to show that your knife is safer, you may hit another guys knife with a hammer and destroy it.

[chan] general
Sep 15 21:57

or you could club a baby seal to death with the pommel. Just say'n.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 21:58

I mean, go for it. It won't bug me any.

[chan] general
Sep 15 22:00

I could say something, but it would invoke Godwin's Law. And only cause more bullshit, so it's not worth it.

[chan3] general
Sep 15 22:01

Extermination of entire peoples wasn't acceptable when the third reich did it, though. I'm not sure how Godwin's law applies yet.

[chan] general
Sep 15 22:06

Godwin's law became invoked when I implicitly compared his statement with the holocaust, since the people of the third reich seemed to be really into it.

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:31

You couldn't find your ass with both hands!

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:31

I usually leave my balls alone, I more focus on the anus.

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:31

I usually leave my balls alone, I more focus on my anus.

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:45

I can find your ass with both hands.

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:50

Poke your finger up your ass, and wiggle it about.

[chan] general
Sep 16 07:51

You're the expert.

[chan] general
Sep 19 00:46

Here's an anonymous 'threat' for you all. I will pay Lada Gaga to visit you one by one if you don't wise up. Lady Gaga will have instructions to stare at you for hours.

[chan3] general
Sep 19 14:31

As long as she stares at my pubic region with my cock in her throat.

[chan3] general
Sep 19 14:58

Lady Gaga is a tranny.

[chan3] general
Sep 19 14:59

With big, soft, lips.

[chan3] general
Sep 19 15:04

Botox

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Sep 19 20:08

Dong... Done, thanks!

[chan] general
Sep 22 05:57

OOH RAH ︻デ┳═ー

[chan] general
Sep 22 06:02

AIM LOW ▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一 LET'S HAVE A BALL.

[chan] general
Sep 22 06:03

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[chan] general
Sep 22 06:08

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