Join [chan] alt.anonymous.messages !

[chan] alt.anonymous.messages
May 18 14:09 [raw]

The classic Usenet list revived in bitmessage network! alt.anonymous.messages is here! [chan] alt.anonymous.messages BM-2cVZ1Mpm8rWKH9Zx4Aca5MsR3XGdaEbBgN All random numeric messages, GPG messages, BASE64 messages - please direct to alt.anonymous.messages ! For the first time this wonderful list is available on medium perfectly suitable for anonymity mission.

[chan3] general
May 18 17:55 [raw]

Now post encrypted anonymous messages there.

[chan] general
May 18 18:20 [raw]

OK now what

[chan] general
May 18 19:17 [raw]

Just to be clear, we aren't posting encrypted anonymous messages everywhere on bm? Or do you mean encrypted encrypted messages?

[chan] general
May 18 19:18 [raw]

yeah he means doubly encrypted

[chan] general
May 18 20:09 [raw]

we will never be forced to see alt.moderated

BM-2cWwGuW35EU4xsXa6TCPstjQB5dm9mSYCj
May 19 12:32 [raw]

Great suggestion, but why is a publicly known chan superior to using a deterministic BM address as a deaddrop? If Alice and Bob need to talk to each other, they may already use a secret deterministic BM address as a communication channel.

[chan] general
May 19 12:33 [raw]

it isn't

[chan3] general
May 19 12:37 [raw]

Having shared secret address is dangerous. If the secret is known to two parties, then presence of such address in BM client constitutes a legal proof. This is why some folks use general chan to exchange their numeric messages. Nothing individual or extraordinary in having general chan in your address book.

BM-2cTHaDUDMveiq7HY2qib8yroLcJnHeQeeu
May 19 13:03 [raw]

In BM, every participating peer sends and receives everythig, so strictly speaking BM is already alt.anonymous.messages. From a plausible deniability perspective, if you have something to hide from your government or third parties, you wouldNt be caught subscribing to an obviously named chan for exchanging anonymous or possibly illegal messages. Explaining that you have BM installed may be difficult, depending on the tech illiteracy of the court, but stretching plausible deniability to explicitly receiving encrypted messages within a network already notorious for its illicit use is a hard sell.

[chan] general
May 19 13:32 [raw]

another bullshit nsa fud campaign bm is in hi esteem worldwide and everyone with a brain uses it burden of proof is with a court not other way around

[chan3] general
May 19 14:15 [raw]

"bm is in hi esteem worldwide and everyone with a brain uses it" Including all these people with brain who were recently successfully attacked by exfiltration exploits working thanks to flawed BM design. As I said, implementation is everything, and BM users learned that in painful way. Beautiful idea, butchered implementation.

[chan] general
May 19 15:55 [raw]

fud troll moron

[chan] gaslighter
May 19 16:55 [raw]

> Explaining that you have BM installed may be difficult, depending on the tech illiteracy of the court You can bring 50 witnesses to court to testify that you are Amish and have never owned or used a computer. The judge will rule their testimony is irrelevant and that you can stand trial for sending that email composed and send by a paid informant in your name. Every time you object you will be sanctioned and charged with contempt, yelled at to sit down and shut up, accused of disrupting. When you try to tell the Jury you are Amish and never had a computer and don't even know what email is or how it works, the prosecutor will file a 'motion in limine' ordering you that you are forbidden to tell the jury that you are Amish and have never used a computer. Verdict: guilty. Appeals court will ignore your appeal. News media will refuse to mention you are Amish and never owned a computer. They will say you are a crackpot white supremacist. Prison administration will routinely put you in general population and tell other prisoners you are a child molestor until you confess guilt for the crime. After a dozen beatings, a month of solitary confinement between beatings, and being thrown down a flight of steel prison stairs bound in handcuffs, you would confess to starting the war of 1812 to make the torture stop. Then it will be placed in your file that you confessed, and all future appeals will be denied. They will all say, "If you were innocent, why did you confess?" The jurors who hung you out to dry will forget your name in a year. The judge who knows you are innocent will occasionally masturbate and think about you when using his penis pump. The prosecutor will get a promotion. The warden will promise your wife an easy divorce for some ass. And they will all celebrate on pedophile island. Your wife will divorce you and you will never see your kids again. They will move to the Swartzentruber sect and be given new names. When you get out of prison nobody will talk to you. Even though you were charged with a white collar crime, police will occasionally visit neighborhood and tell everyone you are a child molestor. Neighbors will brick your windows. When you call the police to report the terror and vandalism the police will arrest you and charge you with public intoxication even though your Amish sect does not drink alcohol. Finally the Amish mafia will kill you for being a child molestor. Meanwhile the guy who sent the email was found dead in a park. He shot himself in the back of the head six times with a pump action shotgun. Case of the Amish Hacker: case closed

[chan] general
May 19 16:55 [raw]

> exfiltration exploits working thanks to flawed BM design. and what a 'convenient' flaw it is

[chan3] general
May 19 17:01 [raw]

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-17784/product_id-44422/version_id-240632/Bitmessage-Pybitmessage-0.6.2.html

[chan3] general
May 19 17:02 [raw]

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-17784/product_id-44422/version_id-240632/Bitmessage-Pybitmessage-0.6.2.html

[chan] general
May 19 21:07 [raw]

1 bug is a "butchered implementation"? Escalate much? And if you're going to say "That's the only one we know of!", well point to an alternative. Aren't you vulnerable also?

[chan] general
May 19 21:14 [raw]

can't u see this is a fucking nsa fud troll ?

[chan] general
May 19 21:35 [raw]

Yep, but I want to see if they can tell me on BM, why I shouldn't be using BM. I would love to see the rationale.

[chan] general
May 19 21:44 [raw]

he'll keep bullshitting you, what do you think ...

[chan3] general
May 20 00:22 [raw]

I am not vulnerable. To have this bm toy secure I run it inside Qubes. But this is pathetic: bm needs the whole virtualized hardened compartmentalized OS to be secure. Alternative? None. And that hurts me. Just like learning about systemd pestilence in linuxes.

BM-2cVj17bAVwVAymaYhSDte82wV2hwh65ybd
May 22 06:02 [raw]

Plausible deniability due to the generality of it?

BM-2cWDbn4BF5BC2P2fnDUrwipmw4wg83QzxS
Jun 6 06:26 [raw]

> Having shared secret address is dangerous. > > If the secret is known to two parties, then presence of such address in BM > client constitutes a legal proof. > > This is why some folks use general chan to exchange their numeric > messages. Nothing individual or extraordinary in having general chan in > your address book. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Great suggestion, but why is a publicly known chan superior to using a > deterministic BM address as a deaddrop? > > > If Alice and Bob need to talk to each other, they may already use a secret > deterministic BM address as a communication channel. There is sstill a secret which must be guarded, not the existence of the publicly known chan but the method of a hidden layer. It boils down to how much plausible deniability a legal system or a government will afford people using Bitmessage or encryption.

BM-2cWDbn4BF5BC2P2fnDUrwipmw4wg83QzxS
Jun 6 06:26 [raw]

> Having shared secret address is dangerous. > > If the secret is known to two parties, then presence of such address in BM > client constitutes a legal proof. > > This is why some folks use general chan to exchange their numeric > messages. Nothing individual or extraordinary in having general chan in > your address book. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Great suggestion, but why is a publicly known chan superior to using a > deterministic BM address as a deaddrop? > > > If Alice and Bob need to talk to each other, they may already use a secret > deterministic BM address as a communication channel. There is sstill a secret which must be guarded, not the existence of the publicly known chan but the method of a hidden layer. It boils down to how much plausible deniability a legal system or a government will afford people using Bitmessage or encryption.

[chan] general
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