Spam...

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 07:59 [raw]

Seems the spam(-test?) is over. I'm wondering why the spamer sent all the messages with empty subject, so they were easy to delete. With different subjects I guess the chans would become unusable. Maybe in the next attac? Is there no strategy against that?

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 08:33 [raw]

Not really. You'd have to trawl through all the messages, and delete the spam.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 08:47 [raw]

that said my bitmessage is still eating up bandwidth both directions like a hungry hippo

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 09:50 [raw]

the protocol should require a small proof of work for each of these actions: exchanging knownnodes (PoW for each one, instead of swapping lists) exchanging TLS keys and handshaking giving or receiving hashes of objects inventory (PoW for every single hash) exchaning every object (independent of sender PoW) exchanging pubkey objects (either requesting or receiving) the PoW should be recalculated for every node+node exchange based on current time and their ephemeral keys. the PoW should be tuned to the number of active streams, with target just high enough to take about a quarter second for each action. these measures would make spamming extremely expensive, would require an attacker to have thousands of IP addresses to even try, and lots of servers to attempt the PoW requirements, and as soon as one IP violates the PoW protocol the peers that witness it would ban the IP temporarily.

BM-NBiWP1rntjpfRGRyAWTDTLTUHzvntjun
Jul 2 10:41 [raw]

What is the connection churning rate like?

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 11:59 [raw]

I'm not seeing this. After running it for four and a half hours, I have downloaded 7 MB and uploaded 3 MB.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 12:18 [raw]

Of course you can't see my computer's activity.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 12:26 [raw]

You know that's not what I meant. What I'm saying is that my BM is not seeing the same high level of network activity that you have. Mine has now been running for six hours, and in that time I have downloaded 8 MB and uploaded 3 MB of data.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 2 12:41 [raw]

Good for you. Would you like a sticker?

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 07:18 [raw]

The relative inactivity of my BM networking proves that you are an attention seeking black liar, and there is no network flooding taking place.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 07:40 [raw]

How about a cookie? Sticker not good enough for you?

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 07:40 [raw]

OP never said anything about network flooding. You are making assumptions. Go back and re-read the original post before you shoot your mouth off and make an ass out of yourself. OP said his bitmessage is constantly pulling data. Nothing was said about network flooding. If OP had a BSOD but you were running android, you would call him an attention seeking black liar because there's no BSOD on your screen.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 07:42 [raw]

O'RLY? In my case: PyBitmessage 0.6.3.2-634a49c, running on Ubuntu 16.04.4 Upload speed limit: 36 kB/s, Download speed limit: 72 kB/s BM is running for 98 minutes, and has uploaded 157Mb, downloaded 158Mb (43 hosts connected to mine, mine connected to 5 hosts) /Suraquis

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 07:55 [raw]

300+ MB for a few text messages is ridiculous. If I raise my upload and download speed limits to 512kB, It sucks at max speed and quickly eats up hundreds of megabytes of bandwidth. There is non-stop data exchange without any letup.

BM-NBSM41NnwVK1QVtEySYxLijG9XvzEqdU
Jul 3 11:38 [raw]

> PyBitmessage 0.6.3.2-634a49c There's your problem. You are still running a version that has the 50,000 inv bug which results in the traffic you are experiencing. You should update to 0.6.3-c7d3784 (June 27, 2018).

BM-NBYhSooSmhAAo42pduJTfdoWRxX4JP1A
Jul 3 11:56 [raw]

*0.6.3.2-c7d3784

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 13:14 [raw]

I pulled the latest commit and still have non-stop exchange of bandwidth that never ceases

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 13:49 [raw]

Updated it, thanks, now watching the bandwidth usage...

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 14:13 [raw]

Yes, upgraded to this exactly version. Pity the site is too out-of-date.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 15:47 [raw]

Well, I have updated to 0.6.3.2-c7d3784, as I said, but bandwidth is still being gobbled: Stats after running the new version for 60 minutes: Uploaded: 102Mb, Downloaded: 211Mb Download limit: 96kB/s, upload limit: 48 kB/s Processed 211 person-to-person messages Processed 53 broadcast messages Processed 28 public keys Any more pieces of advice, please? Upgrading obviously didn't work. /Suraquis

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 20:24 [raw]

...and stats after running for 3 hours: Uploaded: 290Mb, downloaded 598 Mb Processed 1045 person-to-person messages Processed 63 broadcast messages Processed 34 public keys Definitely, the mentioned upgrade solved nothing, talking about bandwidth usage. /Suraquis

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 3 21:12 [raw]

If you're accepting incoming connections, it is expected to take a lot of bandwidth. Peter Surda Bitmessage core developer

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 4 11:43 [raw]

Is it possible to estimate that lot of bandwidth? I intend to keep at least one of my servers open, running BM 24/7 and unthrottled, but every device in this imperfect world has its limits. The overall network depends on how many hosts do accept incoming connections. As network and its requested transfer capacity grows, bandwidth consumption can as well become a bottleneck. Just curious whether there were estimations of such limits. Thanks. /Suraquis

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 4 13:12 [raw]

You only need to connect to a maximum of 8 peers.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 4 14:59 [raw]

Yes, I didn't changed the default maxoutboundconnections = 8 But I see no obvious means to restrict the number of *incoming* connections (but I envision a grave problem if everyone could set the number of incoming connections)

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 4 15:23 [raw]

Is it's possible to restrict the number of incoming connections? Recently I started to observe maximum 2 outgoing connections in the same time having a dozen of peers connected to mine. maxoutboundconnections = 8 maxbootstrapconnections = 4 maxtotalconnections = 64 $ grep host .config/PyBitmessage/knownnodes.dat | sort -u | wc -l 17383 $ grep rating .config/PyBitmessage/knownnodes.dat | sort -u "rating": 0, "rating": 0.0, "rating": -0.09999999999999998, "rating": -0.1, "rating": 0.1, "rating": -0.2, "rating": 0.2, "rating": -0.20000000000000004, "rating": -0.3, "rating": -0.30000000000000004, "rating": 0.30000000000000004, "rating": -0.4, "rating": 0.4, "rating": 0.5, "rating": 1, "rating": 2.7755575615628914e-17,

BM-NBMQEiQCWPEwBSRTJH3fJ686DPhTYgMu
Jul 5 00:27 [raw]

Default maxtotalconnections is 200 Default maxbootstrapconnections is 20 The real limit at which new incoming connections are refused is maxtotalconnections + maxbootstrapconnections + 10 (default 230).

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 15 01:58 [raw]

In this case, Suraquis has too many connections to other peers. Normally 8 peers is fine to obtain a sufficient network connection. (Running on Mac, 0.6.3.2)

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 17 21:52 [raw]

It is because you use a version of Bitmessage that does not ignore the original stream 1 where all the spam is. Any serious discussion is on stream 4 or higher.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 17 23:50 [raw]

There are no streams higher than stream 1. Streams are not implemented in Bitmessage.

BM-2cWy7cvHoq3f1rYMerRJp8PT653jjSuEdY
Jul 17 23:53 [raw]

There are no streams higher than stream 1. Streams are not implemented in Bitmessage.

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