Orthodox worship of Mary was not practiced in the early church.

May 11 00:47 [raw]

Orthodox worship of Mary was not practiced in the early church. "When Did Devotion to Mary Become Widespread?" "What about the devotion to Mary? The Catholic Encyclopedia reports that this was not part of early Christianity:" "Devotion to Our Blessed Lady in its ultimate analysis must be regarded as a practical application of the doctrine of the Communion of Saints. Seeing that this doctrine is not contained, at least explicitly in the earlier forms of the Apostles' Creed, there is perhaps no ground for surprise if we do not meet with any clear traces of the cultus of the Blessed Virgin in the first Christian centuries. The earliest unmistakable examples of the "worship" -- we use the word of course in the relative sense -- of the saints is connected with the veneration paid to the martyrs who gave their lives for the Faith...though writers like Tertullian, Hevidius, and possibly Hegesippus disputed the perpetual virginity of Mary, their more orthodox contemporaries affirmed it. It was natural then that in this atmosphere we should find a continually developing veneration for the sanctity and exalted privileges of Mary...Further, it is quite likely that the mention of the Blessed Virgin in the intercessions of the diptychs of the liturgy goes back to the days before the Council of Nicaea, but we have no definite evidence upon the point, and the same must be said of any form of direct invocation, even for purposes of private devotion (Herbert Thurston. Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XV. Published 1912. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1912. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York)." "Scholar Jesse Hurlbut observed:" "About 405 A.D. images of saints and martyrs began to appear in the churches, adored, worshiped. The adoration of the Virgin Mary was substituted for the worship of Venus and Diana (Hurlbut, JL. The Story of the Christian Church. Zondervan, 1967, p.62)." In short the Orthodox use of Icons is Pagan Idolatry, it is satanic pagan worship, it is anti-Christ, and every Orthodox person who practices it is in rebellion against the Creator of Heaven and earth, who commanded: God's Position on Images From The Old Testament Nearly everyone familiar with the Bible should be familiar with this passage of the ten commandments from Exodus 20:3-5: You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them (NKJV throughout, unless otherwise noted). However, some do not seem to be as familiar with this passage from Deuteronomy 4:15-19. Here a Catholic translation of it: 15 Keep therefore your souls carefully. You saw not any similitude in the day that the Lord God spoke to you in Horeb from the midst of the fire: 16 Lest perhaps being deceived you might make you a graven similitude, or image of male or female, 17 The similitude of any beasts, that are upon the earth, or of birds, that fly under heaven, 18 Or of creeping things, that move on the earth, or of fishes, that abide in the waters under the earth: 19 Lest perhaps lifting up thy eyes to heaven, thou see the sun and the moon, and all the stars of heaven, and being deceived by error thou adore and serve them, which the Lord thy God created for the service of all the nations, that are under heaven. (Douay-Rheims) In other words, God is saying that one of the reasons He did not want to be seen was that He felt the people might think that they should make any idol or icon. Notice that He also said no image of any male or female. See also Isaiah 44:9: 9 Those who make an image, all of them are useless, And their precious things shall not profit; They are their own witnesses; They neither see nor know, that they may be ashamed. This prohibition against idols was not limited to idols of foreign gods. God is also quite displeased with images that are supposed to direct worship to Him as this passage from Exodus 32:7-8 shows: And the LORD said to Moses, "Go, get down! For your people whom you brought out of the land of Egypt have corrupted themselves. They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them. They have made themselves a molded calf, and worshiped it and sacrificed to it, and said, 'This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!' " The Bible shows that God did not want His people to bow down before images that humans made: 1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves; neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves; nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it; for I am the Lord your God. (Leviticus 26:1) The children of Israel were apparently not even allowed the possession of icons as Joshua 7:13 seems to show: 13 'Sanctify yourselves for tomorrow, because thus says the LORD God of Israel: "There is an accursed thing in your midst, O Israel; you cannot stand before your enemies until you take away the accursed thing from among you." Thus all forms of idols and icons were prohibited by God in the Old Testament. Also notice that God says those with idols are like idols in that they have eyes but do not see and ears but do not hear: The idols of the nations are silver and gold, The work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; They have ears, but they do not hear; Nor is there any breath in their mouths. Those who make them are like them; So is everyone who trusts in them (Psalms 135:15-18). Furthermore, notice that in the future, God will get rid of all idols: The LORD alone will be exalted in that day, But the idols He shall utterly abolish (Isaiah 2:17-18). Thus says the Lord GOD: "I will also destroy the idols, And cause the images to cease..." (Ezekiel 30:13). http://www.cogwriter.com/idols.htm

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