Flat Earth proof flight from Australia to South Africa

[chan] 411
Jul 9 15:03 [raw]

Flat Earth proof flight from Australia to South Africa https://steemit.com/flat-earth/@ronsheckelson/flat-earth-proof-flight-paths-south-africa-to-south-america

[chan] 411
Jul 9 20:11 [raw]

Take 4, click the links and you can see the actual flight data. Not close to the northern hemisphere. That is the EXACT same information that is repeatedly posted that does not answer the question. Saying the paths "don't exist" doesn't cut it. You expect me to believe that the flight data for EVERY flight is faked. You are totally insane to believe that. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA63/history/20180708/0110Z/YSSY/FAOR Sydney, Australia to Johannesburg, South Africa - 6,907 miles in 13h 55m NONSTOP https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA27/history/20180708/0308Z/YSSY/SCEL Sydney, Australia to Santiago, Chile - 7,181 miles in 12h 20m NONSTOP https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SAA222/history/20180708/0915Z/FAOR/SBGR Johannesburg, South Africa to Sao Paulo, Brazil 4,704 miles in 10h 48m NONSTOP A link with the same lies is not "proof". I can produce a picture showing that your father shot MLK wearing a clown suit, that doesn't make it true. Show me how this data on these flights is faked. Show me how the times line up to your lies.

[chan] 411
Jul 10 17:38 [raw]

You're incapable of looking at the big picture. You are trying to isolate the subject to some small detail in which you think you have evidence, but your evidence is nothing but heresay. You have been shown much hard video evidence, and official documentary evidence on these chans over the past several months. You've ignored all of it to try to focus on one little heresay issue. Why do official spacewalk videos show air bubbles rising from astronaut space suits through a liquid medium? Why is there still no live feed camera pointed at earth? Why has it been proven that all ISS live feeds have never been live at all but actually pre-recorded and heavily edited? Why has it been proven that augmented virtual reality is used in space mission videos? Why does NASA's official portrait of the "planet" Pluto clearly show an outline of the Disney cartoon character, Pluto the dog? How do you explain sunrise and sunset videos that show the sun shrinking to a point instead of sinking below the horizon? How do you explain the many experiments that prove no water tested anywhere has any curvature, not even the most miniscule amount of curvature over many miles? Great Salt Lake: no curve anywhere, you can place a scope a foot above ground level and see the shore 30 + miles away. Mediterranean: Professional photographers have photographed the shoreline across over 130 miles of ocean, showing the water is completely flat. Great lakes: photographers have boarded boats on the great lakes and gone out distances in excess of 45 miles without ever losing sight of the shoreline. On a curved earth the shoreline would be obscured by a wall of curved water thousands of feet high. But they still see the shore line. Boats disappearing over the curve of the earth: this has been debunked countless times. Whenever any boat disappears over the horizon, a telescoping lense always brings the complete boat back into full view. Light houses: in clear conditions, many light houses are visible over 150 miles out at sea. This would be utterly impossible on a curved earth as the light would be blocked by a wall of water more than a mile high. Stars through the moon: on occasion stars are glimpsed THROUGH the translucent moon. On rarer occasions one can see clouds behind the moon. Hot spots from the sun: Often local hot spots are generated on clouds from the sun. This is only possible if the sun is very near those clouds. A sun 93 million miles distant is not going to generate a local hot spot and solar shadow directly on a local cloud. Baloons: many baloons have been sent up to photograph the horizon. No matter how high these baloons go, the horizon is always shown to be perfectly level with no curve and the horizon always rises to meet the eye of the camera. This would not be possible on a ball earth since the horizon would always fall away from the viewer. Bridges: many bridges around the world are several miles long across waterways, channels, lakes, and seas. Not once has any engineer ever factored in curvature of the earth or water in building one of these bridges. Level experiments always prove that the waterways beneath such long bridges are perfectly level and do not curve in the slightest. Flat earthers trust what they can see and reproduce. Your globe earth insanity is based on blind faith in Neil Degrasse Tyson eater and Bill Nye the science gay.

[chan] 411
Jul 11 15:15 [raw]

Here we are again with the blah, blah, blah, blah. Nearly 600 words without an answer to my question. I am not talking about the moon, the Salt Lakes, spacewalks, Pluto, the stars, bridges, the Great Lakes, live feeds, or anything else. My God, can you stick to the question I asked? This is a bullshit artist way of answering questions. You can talk endlessly and not actually respond to the post. How much are you earning per word? I really want to know. Well, here we go again. "You're incapable of looking at the big picture. You are trying to isolate the subject to some small detail in which you think you have evidence, but your evidence is nothing but heresay. You have been shown much hard video evidence, and official documentary evidence on these chans over the past several months. You've ignored all of it to try to focus on one little heresay issue." That is how questions are answered, one small detail at a time. You cannot find the big picture without all of the pixels, and if you think you can, then you are truely beyond help. I am not going by one individual site, I am looking in every place where this information is located. Flight data here and people's Twitter feeds that were on the flights there for examples. You realize that in order for this to work like you claim, everything and everyone in the chain would have to be faked. Hotels, airlines, car rentals, and limos just off the top of my head. All because you say the flights don't exist, because it is all heresay. Idiotic. Please just explain to me how these nonstop flight exist in your world. They happened, they happen every day, with hundreds if not thousands of people involved every day, and many are nonstop. I just selected 3 and they were easy to find. You ignore this and continue change the subject AGAIN without addressing the question I have. You are a used car salesman of some sort, and think you can shine a light over there to answer the question. I am not confused so easily. I have looked at your evidence and it doesn't hold up. "Your globe earth insanity is based on blind faith in Neil Degrasse Tyson eater and Bill Nye the science gay." Nope, don't give a crap about their opinions because they are full of shit too about a lot of things, Global Warming (now Climate Change) is a load of crap. Don't assume that am just like you and follow any lies told to me. I actually read and figure out things on my own, and not led around a leash like you appear to be. Whenever evidence is presented, I look it over critically which everyone should do. If it is sound, then that is one thing, but the evidence presented here for a flat Earth is not sound. It does not hold up, and many of your own "followers" don't agree on the "facts". I'm done with this lunacy for a while. When I think I'll enjoy twisting you lunatics into a ball again (or a plane?), I'll be back.

[chan] 411
Jul 11 15:45 [raw]

You cannot find the top of the flights is sound: then you are generated on a wall of the moon (the links and think you and Bill Nye the sun; many miles without an answer the post; clouds from the planet Pluto the sun). Nope, don't exist, in Neil Degrasse Tyson eater and not confused so easily. No curve of looking at all of miles without all of curvature of shit too about a sun is based on the moon; the light over the shoreline would be. Photographers have evidence, is located: actually read and solar it been shown to the science gay. Why is one a plane? I asked? Professional photographers have to find the links and the chain would is how much hard questions: are trying to focus on these flights dog? Often local hot spots are Nonstop https. You're incapable of some believe that the light would be; faked; based on the post. You think you are trying to try to Santiago, your evidence is not confused so easily; solar if you seas.

[chan] 411
Jul 11 23:52 [raw]

You are trying to import heresay into the discussion. Heresay is not evidence. It is not admissible. It proves nothing because nobody can be held accountable for it. Evidence is that which is "evident." It has a source, identifiable, accountable. Almost all you have learned about astronomy is pure heresay (and bullshit); things like the distance of planets from the sun, the composition of planets and stars, the speeds and trajectories of heavenly bodies, the compositio of the core of the earth; the nature of gravity, ad nauseum. All of this is heresay without one thin thread of actual evidence. It proves nothing but you take it as gospel. But when I have a ISS video feed from the NASA website and I can pull apart the layers and see the augmented virtual reality tricks they used to compose the video, that's evidence. When I have official video of astronauts doing a space walk and the video clearly shows a few stray air bubbles rising up from the astronaut's hidden scuba tank, that's evidence, and damning evidence that the astronaut is not in space at all, but in a swimming pool faking a space walk (unless space is actually liquid). When the ISS astronauts are broadcasting a video from on the space station and I can see the wiring harness that is holding one astronaut suspended from the ground, that is evidence. You are trying to brush all of this under the rug by putting conclusions in my mouth, then using heresay to debunk YOUR conclusions about how a flat earth would operate and how distances would pan out. They you are trying to attach that to me, when it has nothing to do with the real evidence being discussed. You don't understand the difference between evidence and heresay because you have not the slightest idea how to arrive at the truth of a matter at all. I am not going to debate your heresay with you because heresay is irrelevant. We have cold, hard proof that the whole space program is a smoke and mirrors magic show, and you are avoiding that discussion with your Perth flight schedule. The space program is fake. We never landed on the moon. Once we started exposing the special effects tricks of the fake moon landings, all of the original video reels turned up missing. Elon Musk is the actual name of a character from a novel by Werner von Brun. The character in the novel led the first mission to Mars. Now compare that to Elon Musk of spaceX and their hype about a mission to Mars. Coincidence? This magic show was planned decades in advance to keep the billions flowing into NASA's black hole. The earth is flat and stationary. There is no outer space. The sky is Carribean blue in the daytime because there is an ocean over our heads. "And God placed a firmament in the midst of the waters to separate the waters which were beneath the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And the firmament God called heaven." "Outer space" is an ocean. All of the periodic table of elements reside in solution in ocean water. In a vast quantity of ocean water those minerals can be magnetically and electrolitically extracted to form rock and hydrocarbons. That's where the land comes from, up out of the waters, just as the bible says. God can speak to the waters and make solid matter coalesce and rise up out of them. No matter how deep water is, the pressure never causes the water to heat up due to its unique polarity. We could be surrounded by an ocean a million miles deep and wide and once a certain depth is reached there would be no increase in heat or pressure, and a very thick rock or glass hull would form a biome in the water. We see the waters above in the day time, a nice Carribean blue. Maybe that is why astronauts wear scuba gear on space walks.

[chan] 411
Jul 12 14:43 [raw]

"You are trying to import heresay into the discussion. Heresay is not evidence. It is not admissible. It proves nothing because nobody can be held accountable for it." Um, I'm just trying to get a question answered. Apparently, I am not allowed to ask anything. Besides that, nobody is accountable for the airline flights....that's what you're saying....that is a ridiculous statement. "Almost all you have learned about astronomy is pure heresay (and bullshit); things like the distance of planets from the sun, the composition of planets and stars, the speeds and trajectories of heavenly bodies, the compositio of the core of the earth; the nature of gravity, ad nauseum. All of this is heresay without one thin thread of actual evidence. It proves nothing but you take it as gospel." Not talking about any of this... "But when I have a ISS video feed from the NASA website and I can pull apart the layers and see the augmented virtual reality tricks they used to compose the video, that's evidence. When I have official video of astronauts doing a space walk and the video clearly shows a few stray air bubbles rising up from the astronaut's hidden scuba tank, that's evidence, and damning evidence that the astronaut is not in space at all, but in a swimming pool faking a space walk (unless space is actually liquid). When the ISS astronauts are broadcasting a video from on the space station and I can see the wiring harness that is holding one astronaut suspended from the ground, that is evidence." Or this.... "You are trying to brush all of this under the rug by putting conclusions in my mouth, then using heresay to debunk YOUR conclusions about how a flat earth would operate and how distances would pan out. They you are trying to attach that to me, when it has nothing to do with the real evidence being discussed. You don't understand the difference between evidence and heresay because you have not the slightest idea how to arrive at the truth of a matter at all. I am not going to debate your heresay with you because heresay is irrelevant. We have cold, hard proof that the whole space program is a smoke and mirrors magic show, and you are avoiding that discussion with your Perth flight schedule." That was my discussion, I reposted a question that wasn't answered before. You are answering a thread with nonsense because it doesn't answer my questions, again. "The space program is fake. We never landed on the moon. Once we started exposing the special effects tricks of the fake moon landings, all of the original video reels turned up missing. Elon Musk is the actual name of a character from a novel by Werner von Brun. The character in the novel led the first mission to Mars. Now compare that to Elon Musk of spaceX and their hype about a mission to Mars. Coincidence? This magic show was planned decades in advance to keep the billions flowing into NASA's black hole." Not an answer to my question....and besides that, I could not care less about Elon. "The earth is flat and stationary. There is no outer space. The sky is Carribean blue in the daytime because there is an ocean over our heads. "And God placed a firmament in the midst of the waters to separate the waters which were beneath the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And the firmament God called heaven."" Again, mistaking expanse for firmament, but you have been indoctrinated so I'll never get anywhere with that. ""Outer space" is an ocean. All of the periodic table of elements reside in solution in ocean water. In a vast quantity of ocean water those minerals can be magnetically and electrolitically extracted to form rock and hydrocarbons. That's where the land comes from, up out of the waters, just as the bible says. God can speak to the waters and make solid matter coalesce and rise up out of them. No matter how deep water is, the pressure never causes the water to heat up due to its unique polarity. We could be surrounded by an ocean a million miles deep and wide and once a certain depth is reached there would be no increase in heat or pressure, and a very thick rock or glass hull would form a biome in the water. We see the waters above in the day time, a nice Carribean blue. Maybe that is why astronauts wear scuba gear on space walks." Nope, not talking about any of this....Man, you can drone on and on and not say a damn thing. Why is it so hard to give me an answer to how this flights happened on a flat Earth. You are responding to my post, and not answering the question I asked. You blather like you have a condition that you just can't control when all I want is an answer.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 00:25 [raw]

> How much are you earning per word? I really want to know. We could ask you the same question, pharaonic fagmason. The hyksos and their caesarian seed will be pulled up by the roots. The axe is already laid to the root of the tree.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 00:26 [raw]

> Why is it so hard to give me an answer to how this flights happened on a flat Earth. The alleged flight didn't happen. Likewise the moon landing didn't happen. The direct flights between Perth and Johannesburg did not exist until we pointed out that all flights stopped over in Dubai or some other point far "north." Then after we hammered this point for years and it gained traction, a couple airlines announced direct flights. Then Quantas cancelled its direct flights in the planning stage and the other SA airline has never put a passenger in the air on one of these direct flights. Your belief that they did is delusional. Would you like the video of Stanley Kubrick admitting he worked with the CIA to film the fake moon landing? He was the Hollywood producer who did all the filmography and he comes right out and admits it was all fake and the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on mankind. Spielberg knew about it. Even Woody Allen knew about it, along with several others. Outer space is a hoax because earth is flat. God exists and your whole big gang bang religion is Isis fairy tales.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 01:08 [raw]

Today's flight that didn't happen: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA63/history/20180712/0136Z/YSSY/FAOR And on the official website of the airport in Johannesburg are the flights that don't happen: http://www.johannesburg-airport.com/arrivals.html Here is a small part of the data for the flight that doesn't happen (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/QFA63/history/20180712/0136Z/YSSY/FAOR/tracklog): Wed 09:52:23 PM -33.9103 151.1660 348° North 188 216 900 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YSHW) Wed 09:53:08 PM -33.8690 151.1520 345° North 225 259 2,000 1,360 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (BWU / YSBK) Wed 09:53:38 PM -33.8385 151.1420 345° North 243 280 2,600 1,565 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YTCN) Wed 09:53:54 PM -33.8179 151.1390 8° North 252 290 3,200 1,875 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YPLB) Wed 09:54:10 PM -33.8030 151.1460 36° Northeast 257 296 3,600 1,765 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YSHW) Wed 09:54:28 PM -33.7882 151.1710 73° East 272 313 4,200 1,784 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (SYD / YSSY) Wed 09:54:47 PM -33.7854 151.2000 89° East 273 314 4,700 1,135 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (BWU / YSBK) Wed 09:55:05 PM -33.7877 151.2260 100° East 273 314 4,900 250 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YTCN) Wed 09:55:35 PM -33.7951 151.2720 101° East 274 315 4,900 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YXSG) Wed 09:56:20 PM -33.8056 151.3380 101° East 272 313 4,900 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YRAY) Wed 09:56:36 PM -33.8101 151.3570 115° Southeast 286 329 4,900 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YTCN) Wed 09:56:52 PM -33.8277 151.3820 145° Southeast 307 353 4,900 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YTCN) Wed 09:57:22 PM -33.8659 151.4060 154° Southeast 337 388 4,900 700 Level FlightAware ADS-B (YKAT) Wed 09:57:52 PM -33.9088 151.4310 154° Southeast 364 419 5,600 1,529 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (BWU / YSBK) Wed 09:58:13 PM -33.9429 151.4520 153° Southeast 377 434 6,200 1,800 Climbing Aus ATC (ADS-B) Wed 09:58:22 PM -33.9556 151.4580 154° Southeast 381 438 6,500 2,357 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YPLB) Wed 09:58:41 PM -33.9907 151.4730 169° South 387 445 7,300 2,516 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (SYD / YSSY) Wed 09:58:53 PM -34.0111 151.4770 171° South 390 449 7,800 2,400 Climbing Aus ATC (ADS-B) Wed 09:59:16 PM -34.0543 151.4830 178° South 396 456 8,700 2,229 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (SYD / YSSY) Wed 09:59:28 PM -34.0742 151.4810 184° South 397 457 9,100 2,455 Climbing Aus ATC (ADS-B) Wed 09:59:38 PM -34.0936 151.4750 200° South 397 457 9,600 2,222 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YKAT) Wed 09:59:55 PM -34.1158 151.4610 215° Southwest 397 457 10,100 2,000 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (YTCN) Wed 10:00:11 PM -34.1380 151.4380 232° Southwest 394 453 10,700 2,333 Climbing FlightAware ADS-B (SYHD) Wed 10:00:13 PM -34.1429 151.4300 232° Southwest 393 452 10,800 2,250 Climbing Aus ATC (ADS-B) More tracking sites about this nonexistent flight: https://www.radarbox24.com/data/flights/QF63#877919305 https://planefinder.net/data/flight/QF63 A past flight where they were carrying an extra engine with pictures from 2016 that also didn't happen: https://m.facebook.com/flightradar24/posts/1004584102914346 https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/684802025226432512?lang=en And finally you can take a look at the vast number of people that have tweeted about their trips that they didn't take and see all of their fake pictures: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=quantas%20johannasburg%20sydney&src=typd Everyone is lying, even though this can be verified and cross checked, everything is wrong because it doesn't fit your narrative, go it. You are an idiot to believe that. I'm done.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 17:27 [raw]

we have similar telemetry data for the fake lunar module routes as well.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 17:27 [raw]

we also have the waypoint and telemetry data for the fake lunar modules that never went to the moon. it's heresay, pure heresay, and fake heresay. you have no idea how the scientific method works. you're a buffoon. hollywood producer stanley kubrick admitted that the CIA hired him to create the lunar landing videos. since that cat is out of the bag, you just ignore it to support your conclusion of a ball earth with any straw you can grasp.

[chan] 411
Jul 13 20:36 [raw]

That is the second time in a row that you mentioned Stanley Kubrick, a Hollywood elite to back up your story. Funny how everyone in Hollywood is a liar until they say something you like. But that didn't happen. Check out the outtakes of this "confession" where "Stanley Kubrick" is being coached on what and how to speak - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niEcNiU_2jA That is not really what is important, but you mentioned it twice and it is bullshit. I have not yet argued for the moon landing, I don't think it happened because of the Van Allen Belts, and have doubted it for decades. I believe they lied about it because we had to beat the USSR to the moon and no other reason. If it were true, you are using an argument of a Hollywood director saying he did something for the government to put words in his own mouth (which you accused me of doing) that he says the Earth is flat. He doesn't say that. He basically says the government is a bunch of liars, well I hate to break it to you but that is no revelation, and it is also not an answer to my question. The government lying about a moon landing does not equal a flat Earth, those are 2 different things. Now it is time to quote the bible at me, about 37 times, but let me remind you of something you said to me: "You are trying to import heresay into the discussion. Heresay is not evidence. It is not admissible. It proves nothing because nobody can be held accountable for it." By that logic, the bible itself is heresay. You weren't there when it was written, so you are just going by someone else's experiences. Hell, the people that wrote it didn't experience it, they copied stories passed down for years, generations in some cases. So don't bring heresay into the conversation.

[chan] 411
Jul 14 05:32 [raw]

earth is flat

[chan] 411
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