Forever-proof Encryption? Unlimited Compression?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 22 07:14 [raw]

Forever-proof Encryption? Unlimited Compression? ( main thread in [chan] 411 BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L ) I wish to enjoin a special topic of discussion. This subject may interest cryptographers including mathematicians, programmers, implementers, cryptanalysts, and security researchers. Take a hypothetical scenario. Assume we are able to compress any arbitrary amount of data to a fixed size of 256 bits. Assume there is a new branch of maths where the pigeonhole principle does not apply in certain fields. These fields can be mapped to an algorithm that will rebuild the entire field from a small sectional value of the field. We convert the data into such a field, get the mapping value, and drop the original data. The mapping value will reconstruct the original data. I wish to brainstorm the ramifications and consequences of such an invention being made available to the people. This is an invitation to intelligent discussion about every potential ramification--socially, technologically, politically, economically--that comes to mind. Here are some of the ramifications of efficient, unlimited data compression: 0. Beyond future-proof cryptography--forever-proof cryptography. 1. Reduce internet load by cutting the actual transmitted data 95+%. 2. All documents and web pages stored on disk as 256 bit files, regardless of decompressed data size. 3. Many compressed files and packets can be reduced to 128 bits, and a smaller percentage to 64/32 bits. 3. 4.7 gigabyte DVD files can traverse any network in less than one second. 4. A data archive with thousands of storage drives can have infrastructure pruned to fit in a closet. 5. Billions of daily emails reduced to between 32 bits and 256 bits each with forever-proof cryptography. 6. Linux ISO files distributed as a binary string less than half a kilobyte! 7. Software repositories (eg, Debian) reduced to all packages encoded into a small document. 8. Encryption security beyond anything available or previously imaginable. 9. All bitmessage network objects the exact same size (256 bits) regardless of expanded size. 10. All Tor traffic requests are exactly 256 bits, making the Tor network drastically faster overall, and making timing and traffic analysis attacks ineffective. 11. Allows mobile data users with limited data plans to effectively download hundreds of gigabytes of data on their 5-10 gigabyte data allowances. 12. Enables syncing and backup of gigabytes of data in mere seconds. 13. Sync Bitcoin blockchain exponentially faster. 14. Exponential speedup of altcoin transactions. Some possible negative ramifications: 1. Ability of states and corporations to store nearly infinite data on people. 2. Drastically slashes the cost of data surveillance programs. 3. Allows creation of huge blockchains of your personal data that can never go away. I am sure others can add to this list. I encourage you to do so and discuss.

BM-2cW67GEKkHGonXKZLCzouLLxnLym3azS8r
May 22 08:21 [raw]

Oh hi. Have just joined this chan now that I see something of interest. As a cryptographer, yes the topic is interesting. I note that : 1. This compression is best done with tensor type maths. 2. It won't be truely unlimted. 3. The arbitary compression is usually that of elimination of zeroed data. (eg, the fields that do not apply in an amazon customer account in their database.) Ram point 0. Forever proof crypto is not a thing, as even OTP will be vulnerable mid next century due to moore's law equivalent advances in processor design. 1. True 2. Mostly wrong, for reason 2 & 3 above. 3. I think you are mistaking infohashes with compression. 3 (b). Most blurays are compressed when shared on bittorrent to around the 1.4gb mark. Uncompressed movies are around 25gb at bluray FHD quality, at least at the cinema I knew their system was 25gb per movie uncompressed. 4. Miniturisation of storage is inevitable, currently artificial DNA is capable of storaging massive amounts of data. 5. This would imply that the email is centraly stored and replicated on demand for repeated conversations, however the resulting conversation database would be terabytes larger than necessary, and pose a security risk to the correspondents. 6. It is called a torrent file, or magnet link. 7. Again, a torrent file, or magnet link. 8. This is something I have 20 years experience with, and I am making available. 9. I would suggest you read shannon's textbook before further commenting. 10. TOR is compromised crap, I would specifically avoid all use of it. 11. Wifi exists in many places for this reason. 12. This is more a question of network speeds rather than compression, and 5G will do this kind of speed, along with Wifi-(AC). 13. Bitcoin. LOL, it is designed to sync slowly since satoshi put that in the specs. Good luck trying to get that past the miners. 14. Blockchain in it's current design does not scale. Which is why I have a custom design fo my own. Negs : as above in the ramifications.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 22 09:27 [raw]

lol this is gonna be fun

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 22 09:35 [raw]

Hey, anything has got to be better than the bitmessage preachers. :-)

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 22 15:46 [raw]

This is evidence of how people come into a discussion and make comments without understanding what was actually said before.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 22 16:12 [raw]

> even OTP will be vulnerable mid next century due to moore's law equivalent advances in processor design. Moore' law stopped working years ago, and Moore's law has not applied to processors for over a decade. Processors are not getting faster as Moore's law predicted. OTP will never be vulnerable and has been mathematically and practically proven permanently secure against all analytical attacks whatsoever. > I would suggest you read shannon's textbook before further commenting. You are assuming I have not read Shannon's textbook. Your comments are full of assumptions and assertions, some of which (like breaking OTP and Moore's law) have already been disproven long ago. You appear to have missed the entire point of the post. Rather than me going back and reading Shannon's text again, perhaps you might read the original post again.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 01:48 [raw]

Moore's law is effectively continued with multi-cores. OTP will be vulnerable around 2140 at the earliest according to the calculations I proved 15 years ago. These calculations were confirmed by a friend with a doctorate in cryptography with no input from myself in their calculations. I would suggest that you realise that some cryptographers have decades of experience, and I speak as someone who learnt cryptography in primary school, not as late as university students do. For that reason, I have a depth of experience which even the NSA can't match.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 01:57 [raw]

Dude, the OP is effectively nonsense if I'm going to be discussing it unpolitely.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 02:58 [raw]

> Moore's law is effectively continued with multi-cores. No, its not. Processor speeds have been inching upward very slowly, a fraction of what they were 15-20 years ago. There is no more doubling, not even near quartering upward at this point. Moore's law reached the end of its life cycle. It was true for a long time but is not longer true. Multi-cores do not make a processor faster-they merely distribute the workloads. A single workload does not go any faster nowadays, except for tiny increases in speed with each new generation of chips. > OTP will be vulnerable around 2140 at the earliest according to the calculations I proved 15 years ago. These calculations were confirmed by a friend with a doctorate in cryptography with no input from myself in their calculations. Your friend with a doctorate is a religious prognosticater and fortune teller, not a scientist. I have a doctorate degree in bullshit detection. Science does not predict the future. Moreover, Vernam's Cipher is not vulnerable to any kind of attack besides knowing the encryption pad. There is no math now or in the future to decrypt random data. OTP is still the cipher used for highly sensitive battlefield communications between command and the civil authority. They use OTP wrapped in layers of symmetric keys and public key signatures. > I would suggest that you realise that some cryptographers have decades of experience, and I speak as someone who learnt cryptography in primary school, not as late as university students do. For that reason, I have a depth of experience which even the NSA can't match. Now the bullshit detector is beeping non-stop. I began learning cryptography in the 3rd grade, almost 40 years ago. I have studied codes, ciphers, signalling, networks, electronics, cabling, radio, and covert communication tactics zealously all these years. And NSA is definitely way ahead of the curve because they have massive man power, organization, resources, information, and money to throw at their targets. To claim the NSA is no match for you means one thing: bullshit. Ph.D. == Piled Higher and Deeper Assuming you are not just an Aye Eye bawt, I suspect you are concern trolling for the lulz.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 07:05 [raw]

I suggest you do not know the basics of how computer circuits operate. Religious trolling should stick to (general) chan. Science is predictive, and my use of science has been confirmed by the government agency which wanted me to run their research division. Your stupidity would be suitably used in the government agency that couldn't pay enough to hire me.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 07:58 [raw]

> Religious trolling should stick to (general) chan. That's non-sequitur.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 08:07 [raw]

Ok, whatever. We have established you are an idiot. Now what ?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 09:10 [raw]

What is the relationship between religious trolling and Moore's Law?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 09:21 [raw]

You introduced it, so fuck knows what is going on in your head.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 23 19:17 [raw]

did u ever light a fart on fire?

BM-2cTaYCjvwtrrYNnSTVYH5MCBFqVj2BLNjv
May 24 00:17 [raw]

Are you trolls from the Waffen BS Shitposter Division?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 25 00:45 [raw]

> Science is predictive, and my use of science has been confirmed by the government agency which wanted me to run their research division. It's a good thing you passed up that shitty opportunity and decided on a career in trolling Bitmessage.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 25 00:45 [raw]

>>> Religious trolling should stick to (general) chan. I'm the OP who created [chan] 411. Don't even think you can come here and tell me or my guests what we may or may not discuss on this chan. I enjoy religious discussion and religious debate is welcome in the darknet directory service bunker. Underground Christian groups around the world need anonymous and secure communication vectors. Christians in many countries are brutally persecuted for their faith. Bitmessage would be a good tool for them to get news and resource intel between persecuted groups. But the OP of this thread didn't open up a discussion of religion so you're twaddling. OP of this thread has made a fine point. The point flew over your head because you want to discuss your unproven, anonymous credentials instead of the subject at hand. The subject of the original thread was to discuss the ramifications if infinite compression became a reality. It was not opened as a discussion of your credentials and vainglorious superiority. Nobody asked you to pronounce what is or isn't possible. The subject is an introspection of "what if..." If you read the original post carefully you might understand by reading between the lines.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 25 00:45 [raw]

>>> OTP will be vulnerable around 2140 at the earliest according to the calculations I proved 15 years ago. These calculations were confirmed by a friend with a doctorate in cryptography with no input from myself in their calculations. This is some bong-hit smoke. Any OTP message can be decoded to any plaintext you desire. All one needs is to invent the desired key to create the desired plaintext. This alone shows your prediction of breaking OTP is silly. Admit you are mistaken and you may learn something.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 12:31 [raw]

Nein, fickmeister.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 12:35 [raw]

You are a dickhead for all I can tell. Christstains are fuckwits the world over claiming to be oppressed, even in majority wankstain nations like Drumpfistan, the nation of Drumf-fisting. How about not engaging in masturbatory fantasies online if you don't want to be corrected ?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 15:22 [raw]

> "Christstains are fuckwits the world over claiming to be oppressed" During the Catholic inquisitions over 200 million "heretics" were brutally tortured to death by the pagan sun-cult priesthood of Rome during the dark ages. These victims were Christians who refused to bow to Rome but instead stood fast on the doctrine that Christ, not the pagan "church" is Lord. The Bolsheviks slaughtered 60+ million Orthodox Christians in Russia to bring about their "worker's paradise." They even nailed priests to doors and disemboweled them as a warning to all who would dare to profess faith in Jesus Christ. The Bolshevik soldiers would surround Christian assemblies and line them up with a cross on the ground. Whoever would denounce Christ and spit on the cross was spared--whoever did not was immediately shot in the head, execution-style--even children. These Jewish Hasbara bolsheviks raped pregnant women then cut their babies out of their wombs. For 70 years in the Soviet regime, to declare faith in Jesus Christ brought a death sentence. Any Christian criticism of Jews was a death penalty offence. The Soviets proceeded to murder millions of Christians in Eastern Europe. The entire religion of the Jehovah's Witnesses was just banned recently by KGB Putin. Only churches run by the KGB are allowed to operate in Russia. Bloody Bill Clinton helped wipe out swaths of the ethnic Christian population in Serbia and former Yugoslavia. He also supervised the mass murder of over 70 Christians in Waco, Texas. The Branch Davidians had witnessed Clintonista drug running in Waco. Christians in the near east and middle east are routinely murdered by Muslims on an almost daily basis. Christians are routinely raped, imprisoned and murdered for their faith in China, North Korea, Syria, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, Nepal, and Afghanistan, about 40 different countries. In the Israeli state Orthodox Jews routinely persecute Christians, even publicly spitting on them and assaulting them. About 100 million Christians persecuted around the world: report https://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-christianity-persecution-idUSBRE9070TB20130108 Dying for Christianity: millions at risk amid rise in persecution across the globe Increase in murder, as well as rape, torture and discrimination, has led the pope to warn of a ‘form of genocide’ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/27/dying-for-christianity-millions-at-risk-amid-rise-in-persecution-across-the-globe One in 12 Christians around the world is persecuted: 3,000 were killed last year and six women were raped every DAY, shocking report finds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5261287/Persecution-Christians-rise.html The Most Persecuted Religion in the World https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-james-clark/christianity-most-persecuted-religion_b_2402644.html Easter 2017, Christians ‘Most Persecuted Group in the World’ http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/04/16/easter-2017-christians-most-persecuted-group-in-the-world/ Christians Are Still Persecuted Around the World. Here's Where. Last Sunday's Easter bombing in Pakistan targeting Christians should come as no surprise—Christians are persecuted around the globe. https://www.thedailybeast.com/christians-are-still-persecuted-around-the-world-heres-where

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 15:24 [raw]

> "Christstains are fuckwits the world over claiming to be oppressed" Recently in North Korea 33 Baptist missionaries were sentenced to death.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 15:25 [raw]

You are a monster. You will get what's coming to you.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 16:46 [raw]

Huh? There weren't even 200 million people total in the world at that time.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 26 22:58 [raw]

Firstly, whoever gave you that figure is an idiot. The imperialist-paid academics spew that garbage to make it seem like imperialist genocides didn't happen and that the genocidal tyrants are at the same time the "builders" of the civilizations they destroy and oppress. Rome alone ruled over 70 million people, and Persia/Parthia about twice as many. That's over 200 million right there and we haven't gotten to the Indus, the Americas, which were densely populated until the Conquistadors and the plague decimated 95% of the population before the Pilgrims even landed on Plymouth Rock. Also, the Catholic murders of 200+ million happened over a period of several centuries, not in a single generation. I find it hard to believe you are so uninformed and so quick to say things when you don't know what you're talking about. Christians are highly persecuted in dozens of countries. But out of sight, out of mind to you deluded hasbara trolls.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 27 06:40 [raw]

What ? A lecture about more dickheads buggering around bothering us all about an imaginary friend ?

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 27 06:40 [raw]

Um, what dickhead goes to a state run by an extremist cult trying to spread their own cult ? Answer : a dead dickhead.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 27 06:49 [raw]

I think he's been hitting the bong, right after being told the truth that he is a fuckwit.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 27 11:21 [raw]

> Um, what dickhead goes to a state run by an extremist cult trying to spread their own cult ? The Christians were there centuries before either Islam or the Communists. Islam and Communism have been slowly genociding the Christians for centuries. Christians were all through the Middle East and Orient 500 years before the existence of Islam and 1800 years before the existence of Communism. It is Islam and Communism that are spreading their cult on Christian blood. Your claim the Christians showed up later than their oppressors speaks to your ignorance. Due to your severe ignorance nothing you say has any value. You're a babbling dolt. You are an uneducated, vituperative, and caustic moron who has absolutely no empathy or moral compass.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 27 14:42 [raw]

North Korea is Islamic now? what the hell is this

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 28 10:50 [raw]

North Korea is not, and has never been Christ-stain. Previously it would have been a far-eastern religion in the days before WW2 as the main faith. I think it is obvious that you are just a babbling lunatic who feels the need for morality dictated by a book that predates toilet paper.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 28 11:51 [raw]

I think the dude has been hitting the bong too much, after all a spliff is the only good use of bible pages.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 28 21:40 [raw]

A third of south Koreans identify themselves as Christians. It is unknown how many north Koreans are Christians because they are openly murdered by the regime. North Korea and South Korea were a unified country in the past. Christianity has been there for centuries. Christianity was brought to Korea by a Korean diplomat in the 1600s. You have no understanding of what faith in Christ is, or what it means. It has nothing to do with morality or rules, and it never did. Morality is for those who have overcome blindness so they may witness to others who are still blind. Morality does not save anyone, and cannot. It is the promise and sacrifice of God's son that saves men and reconciles them to the Father of spirits. "There is none righteous, no, not one." The gospel of Christ is that mankind left God and became trapped in this world. "The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Man died, being trapped in the cycle of rebirths into this world. Early Christians and Jews called this process, "galgal" which meant the turning of ages of lives. This world is poetically called "the grave" or "hell" or "the pit" in the scripture. The suffering and trials of this world are called, "The lake of fire and brimstone" because brimstone is used to purify gold. Each soul is being purified to draw out a heart of pure gold. Christ came to return souls from this world back into the heavenly abode through a process of ages. He promised to work until he has saved every soul under heaven and return all of the to the Father. The minds of souls have become polluted by this world and can't stand in the Father's presence with their pollution. The only way to remove the pollution is through testing in the adversity of this age. At the end of the age Christ will return to gather those who have passed the test and trusted in him instead of the evil powers of this world. Then he will return them back to their heavenly abode, much wiser for their experience. Those who reject him will be left behind for another turning of the ages, to continue suffering imprisoned in mortal flesh. The purpose of preaching this good news is to share the hope of this eventual salvation with all men so those who are ready can hear it and have faith. Once faith grows they become purified from their fallen state and their minds begin to turn toward God and away from this world. The mind that becomes focused on God will eventually be set free and raised up to immortal glory. A man does not attain this salvation by good works or meditation or prayer or going to church or a religion. He attains it when the Father draws him to believe in Jesus Christ and stop trying to save himself. Men trying to control their own destiny is what made them fall into mortality in the first place. All men are born into evil. There are no righteous. But God so loved the world that he promised to send his Son to free us from a predicament of our own making, that whoever trusts the Son and will not perish but will have life at the end of the ages, even them who believe on his Authority (and not the authority of world powers). "To him that overcomes I will grant to sit with me in my throne even as I have overcome and am set down in the throne of my Father." "To him that overcomes I will make a pillar in my temple, no more to go out." We were pillars in his temple before the world began. When we overcome this world we will never be sucked back into death again. Jesus Christ created this world, and when he redeems all his brethren from it he will destroy it and make it new, so those who want to visit it can do so without all the evil we currently face. There will be a new heaven and new earth, a new kind of society here, where it is a joy to visit. But first the deficiencies within the hearts of mankind must be burned out by the fire of trial and suffering. All the spirits knew before the world began that they would become lost here. But they were restless and wanted to understand existence without God directly present. So God commissioned the Son to create this world and let his brethren run away into it. He promised before the foundation of the world that he would save them after many ages. This is why Christ Jesus is called, "The lamb slain before the foundation of the world." Because Christ died on the cross, the penalty of death is abolished, so souls can fly free from here with a clear consience toward God the Father. In the human world a person who has done you wrong or abused you will avoid you because his conscience knows he has wronged you. To be in your presence would remind his consience that he is evil. In a similar way the souls here avoid God and are trapped because of their defiled consciences. But Christ's death, burial, and resurrection paved the way to a clear conscience because it is his world and we are his property and we answer to him. When we find faith in Christ our conscience is washed of guilt for our sin, so we can stand in the presence of God and not shrink from Him. John 8:9 - "And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst." When convicted by their own conscience they fled his presence. All fallen and unregenerate souls have this conviction in their defiled conscience which makes them flee the righteousness of God. "And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men." Acts 24 Romans 2:15 - Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) I Corinthians 8:12 - But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences." I Timothy 1:5 - Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: We who know Christ do not follow him out of fear of damnation. We follow him because we know we were damned before we knew him and we have life in the ages to come through his good name.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 28 21:40 [raw]

you are a murderer

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 28 21:43 [raw]

'A revival started in 1907, particularly in the north and three thousand churches sprang up in the present North Korea. Pyongyang, the present North Korean capital, was even called, "The Jerusalem of Asia."'

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 01:54 [raw]

> North Korea is not, and has never been Christ-stain. Pyongyang was called the Jerusalem of Asia in the early third of the 1900s. Thousands of Christian churches sprang up there. Even under its current repression of the Christian faith (death penalty) it is estimated more than ten percent of North Koreans secret believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ. And you hate those persecuted people, for you consider each one as, " a babbling lunatic who feels the need for morality dictated by a book that predates toilet paper." Many North Koreans who escaped into China voluntarily went back to North Korea to preach the gospel, knowing it meant a death sentence. Your godless, selfish existence is a pathetic joke. You are a self-serving, worthless animal who has never loved or sacrificed for anything other than your own self. That is why you hate Christianity so much. It exposes you for what you are.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:18 [raw]

Most of the users on BM are relatively normal, but the BM platform is seen as a dangerous tool of free speech which some (all?) governments are trying to suppress. One of the methods they use is to employ an army of professional paid trolls whose job is to drive the good users away from BM, and to spoil and pollute any sensible discussions. The paid trolls do this by posting obscene content, insults, and aggressive messages. This manipulation tactic causes normal people to think Bitmessage is abnormal or dangerous. The intent of the trolls is to drive you away from Bitmessage. Just ignore them. Don't respond. When they question you or attack you, they are not trying to have a discussion. Remember they are evil and trying to derail real discussion. They will also provide ridiculous answers to questions. They will also pretend to be asking you questions, often stupid questions. If someone asks a clearly stupid question it is probably a troll. Ignore them. These people have no moral compass. If their employer offered them $1000 per week to beat babies to death they would do it. If they were paid bonus money to insult the parents of the dead baby, they would do it. That is the kind of people these trolls are. They are subhuman. Don't respond to subhumans.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:33 [raw]

Most of the users on BM are relatively normal, but the BM platform is seen as a dangerous tool of free speech which some (all?) governments are trying to suppress. One of the methods they use is to employ an army of professional paid trolls whose job is to drive the good users away from BM, and to spoil and pollute any sensible discussions. The paid trolls do this by posting obscene content, insults, and aggressive messages. This manipulation tactic causes normal people to think Bitmessage is abnormal or dangerous. The intent of the trolls is to drive you away from Bitmessage. Just ignore them. Don't respond. When they question you or attack you, they are not trying to have a discussion. Remember they are evil and trying to derail real discussion. They will also provide ridiculous answers to questions. They will also pretend to be asking you questions, often stupid questions. If someone asks a clearly stupid question it is probably a troll. Ignore them. These people have no moral compass. If their employer offered them $1000 per week to beat babies to death they would do it. If they were paid bonus money to insult the parents of the dead baby, they would do it. That is the kind of people these trolls are. They are subhuman. Don't respond to subhumans.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:53 [raw]

Load of wank.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:54 [raw]

I couldn't care less. A third of the population meet the definition of idiots, which in a venn diagram neatly overlaps religious faith.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:54 [raw]

You are talking bollocks. Not that you have ever used yours.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 02:56 [raw]

Most of the users of BM don't want this idiotic christ babble, and we should remind them they are welcome to fuck off.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 03:36 [raw]

Most of the users on Bitmessage are relatively normal people who just want privacy. Because the Bitmessage platform is seen as a dangerous tool of free speech, governments are try to suppress its use. One of the suppression methods they use is to employ an army of professional paid trolls. The paid trolls are tasked to drive the good users away from Bitmessage by harassing them. They do this by spoiling and polluting any sensible discussions. Other troll tactics include posting obscene content, insults, and aggressive messages. These manipulation tactics cause normal people to think Bitmessage is abnormal or dangerous. The intent of the trolls is to drive you away from Bitmessage. Just ignore them. Don't respond to trolls. When they question you or attack you, they are not trying to have a discussion. Remember they are evil and trying to derail real discussion. They will also provide ridiculous answers to questions. They will also pretend to be asking you questions, often stupid or snide questions. If someone asks a stupid or snide question it is probably a troll. Ignore them. They don't believe in anything so debating your beliefs with them is a fool's errand. The trolls have no moral compass. If their employer offered them $1000 per week to beat babies to death they would do it. If they were paid bonus money to insult the parents of the dead baby, they would do it. That is the kind of people these trolls are. They are subhuman. Don't respond to subhumans. Enjoy the privacy that Bitmessage affords.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 04:19 [raw]

Take your Christophobic trollshit back to general.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 04:19 [raw]

Most of the users on Bitmessage are relatively normal people who just want privacy. Because the Bitmessage platform is seen as a dangerous tool of free speech, governments are try to suppress its use. One of the suppression methods they use is to employ an army of professional paid trolls. The paid trolls are tasked to drive the good users away from Bitmessage by harassing them. They do this by spoiling and polluting any sensible discussions. Other troll tactics include posting obscene content, insults, and aggressive messages. These manipulation tactics cause normal people to think Bitmessage is abnormal or dangerous. The intent of the trolls is to drive you away from Bitmessage. Just ignore them. Don't respond to trolls. When they question you or attack you, they are not trying to have a discussion. Remember they are evil and trying to derail real discussion. They will also provide ridiculous answers to questions. They will also pretend to be asking you questions, often stupid or snide questions. If someone asks a stupid or snide question it is probably a troll. Ignore them. They don't believe in anything so debating your beliefs with them is a fool's errand. The trolls have no moral compass. If their employer offered them $1000 per week to beat babies to death they would do it. If they were paid bonus money to insult the parents of the dead baby, they would do it. That is the kind of people these trolls are. They are subhuman. Don't respond to subhumans. Enjoy the privacy that Bitmessage affords.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 04:20 [raw]

Most of the users on Bitmessage are relatively normal people who just want privacy. Because the Bitmessage platform is seen as a dangerous tool of free speech, governments are try to suppress its use. One of the suppression methods they use is to employ an army of professional paid trolls. The paid trolls are tasked to drive the good users away from Bitmessage by harassing them. They do this by spoiling and polluting any sensible discussions. Other troll tactics include posting obscene content, insults, and aggressive messages. These manipulation tactics cause normal people to think Bitmessage is abnormal or dangerous. The intent of the trolls is to drive you away from Bitmessage. Just ignore them. Don't respond to trolls. When they question you or attack you, they are not trying to have a discussion. Remember they are evil and trying to derail real discussion. They will also provide ridiculous answers to questions. They will also pretend to be asking you questions, often stupid or snide questions. If someone asks a stupid or snide question it is probably a troll. Ignore them. They don't believe in anything so debating your beliefs with them is a fool's errand. The trolls have no moral compass. If their employer offered them $1000 per week to beat babies to death they would do it. If they were paid bonus money to insult the parents of the dead baby, they would do it. That is the kind of people these trolls are. They are subhuman. Don't respond to subhumans. Enjoy the privacy that Bitmessage affords.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 07:18 [raw]

The only idiot is the man who neglects his eternal salvation. It takes a real idiot to blaspheme his Maker.

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May 29 07:57 [raw]

As far as I am concerned, my salvation will come when those of faith stop loudly announcing their faith as something that I should care about.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
May 29 08:15 [raw]

Your christ never existed, take your babble to (christ) chan where we don't have to listen to you.

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May 30 21:25 [raw]

I was wondering how many people actually subscribe to this chan. It looked like it was just a couple of trolls arguing back and forth. Is anyone interested in this topic? If so please indicate.

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
Jun 2 08:49 [raw]

I had subscribed to this chan just to say that this was delusional stuff, then I saw it is just a toxic pit of "the owner wants to dictate religious trolling"

BM-2cW53MzWqtod8TA6vybdUeqd2LhTuXCX3L
Jun 15 04:35 [raw]

1800 years ago 25% of Chinese population were Nestorian Christians. Many tens of millions of Christians lived from the Near East to Siberia to the Pacific. Christianity was in North Korea long before Kim Jong Un's religion of self-defication. Approximately 10% of North Koreans believe that Jesus is the Son of God but they are given the death penalty and tortured and executed if they admit to this belief. Asia has a much longer Christian history than is being portrayed by the lying anti-Christ with his fake Stormcloud project.

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